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jakbeni: Thu May 1, 03 at 03:27:15 AM (EDT) - My absence

a.k.a. Rodger. But for reasons I'm not going to post, I changed my handle. I know, I've been absent for a while. Had some busy deadlines at work which are now behind me and also keeping up with live music. This weekend, went to the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival. Went there Saturday bit should have went Sunday since Sumday had a much better line up. Opening up Saturday was a cool jazz-rock fusion band called Particle. After Particle the line up consisted of mostly wanna bes until late afternoon came around. Was pretty sad going between 5 stages and not finding anything that interested me. But the bands in the early evening were better. The highlight for me was seeing Ben Harper (who I seen once before) who never fails to put on a great show. But after he was done, the remaining bands were of no interest to me, which included a rap band (rap makes me feel like an old geezer since I can't stand the stuff) and a techno band (not quite as bad as rap, but still not quite my genre). So, cannot say this is one of the better music festivals I've been to. Maybe I would have felt different if I went Sunday. But Monday was a work day and it is a 2.5 hour drive from Coachella valley to where I live. Will I go next year? Maybe. I'll have to see who is playing before I make up my mind.

jakbeni: Thu May 1, 03 at 03:13:24 AM (EDT) - Russian Internet radio

They had a real cool edition of the Radio and Internet Newsletter RAIN today. They had a vistor from Russia who came to share his favorite internet radio websites with the good folks at RAIN. Thought this was so cool, I had to post a link to this website.

Tiki: Wed Apr 30, 03 at 05:37:44 PM (EDT) - ACK

Has it really been almost 6 years?

I broke down and started going through my boxes of tapes. Stuff I have not listened to in years.

np: Vonda Shepard. 1/31/96. Live from the KSCA Music Hall.

Tiki: Wed Apr 30, 03 at 05:07:26 PM (EDT) -

Prolly why I am going to re-build my 2 PERI 50's.

50 Watt Mono Amplifiers made by Perisound (Printed Electronic Research, INC) of North Hollywood. They are similar to a Dynaco MK II or MK III. In fact they are loaded with Dynaco A-430 transformers.

Thomas More: Wed Apr 30, 03 at 04:47:07 PM (EDT) - For Non-Tubes freaks

WPOD = White Punks on Dope

DTMT = Don't Touch Me There

Both trademark songs for The Tubes. They've been around for some time, waiting for the mainstream to catch up.

HoS; Are you a fan of The Tubes? Only those past a certain age would know them as well as KD.

Thomas More: Wed Apr 30, 03 at 04:40:27 PM (EDT) - Did you mean; "What Do You Want from Live?"

Hey, The Tubes! I get it now.

I did the sound for those guys a couple of times, back in the '70s. Fun band. Different. DTMT

KD: Wed Apr 30, 03 at 11:25:27 AM (EDT) - What Do You Want From Life?

The extent of my tube knowledge.

Also WPOD.

Thomas More: Tue Apr 29, 03 at 07:29:08 PM (EDT) - tube freaks

Tiki; You're certainly not the only one who prefers tube-type audio electronics. Marantz, McIntosh and even Dynaco tube-type components are fetching big bucks online these days, more than later-model solid-state stuff, which was actually better, until about 1979, when all the audio component manufacturing was priced out of the USA by cheap imports. Now, there are only cheap imports available. Saw some 30-year-old McIntosh stuff recently with prices from one to five thousand dollars!

The most rabid tube freak I've ever known is Owsley, the Grateful Dead's original sound system guru, also known for his genius in chemistry.

I heard that Owsley still attends Family and other Dead happenings, but he's not allowed to play with a screwdriver any more.

Tiki: Mon Apr 28, 03 at 11:56:43 PM (EDT) -

two of the screws are stripped

Better to bring the whole doohickie to me.

Tiki: Mon Apr 28, 03 at 11:47:49 PM (EDT) - Just a moment Poogie!

I am bouncing on the walls:

Curt Kirkwood Solo Acoustic Sets - In promotion of “Alive In The Nineties!!”

Sat May 17th - Long Beach, CA - Dipiazza's Lounge (21+) - 562-498-2461

Poogie: Mon Apr 28, 03 at 11:18:15 PM (EDT) - Tiki-question

I was installing my Airport card tonight and two of the screws are stripped. I can't get them out. I used the recommended Torx 8 screwdriver. Any way I can get them out on my own, or should I take it to the Apple Store?

Thanks!

Thomas More: Mon Apr 28, 03 at 09:17:05 PM (EDT) - O.k., the pooch ate my links!

Here's the links in plain text. You'll have to copy them and paste them in your "Location" window.

Part I: http://www.visi.com/~asm/Newsletters/asmOct96.PDF Part II: http://www.visi.com/~asm/Newsletters/asmNov96.PDF

Thomas More: Mon Apr 28, 03 at 09:13:05 PM (EDT) - More on McIntosh (not MacIntosh)

Tiki; At the risk of a fatwah from McIntosh devotees, and tube freaks in general, I should say that although the McIntosh audio amplifier was the standard of excellency back in the 1950s and early 1960s, in truth it was a flawed design.

This is not my opinion, but rather that of another pioneer in the development of an ultra-linear tube amplifier, whose break-through design was the rage of high-fidelity freaks in 1954.

That would have been Dave Hafler, whose first company, Dynaco, which produced high-end audio electronics at reasonable cost by selling kits. You could also buy a "factory-wired" model for $50 to $100 more. You say, who would wire up a kit when you can get it for $50 - $100 complete? Remember, in 1960 the cost of a high-end stereo system was beyond the budget of most working men, an expensive toy reserved for the rich. $100 was often a man's wages for a week. Gasoline was 25 cents per gallon.

Anyway, don't take my word for it. Here are links to a two-part article which tells the whole McIntosh story.

Part I and Part II

(Hope my html doesn't screw the pooch)

Pooch: Mon Apr 28, 03 at 01:04:56 PM (EDT) - Owww

You didn't even buy me dinner first!!!!

Poogie: Sun Apr 27, 03 at 11:13:51 PM (EDT) - oops.

Did I do something bad? [blush] Sorry Tiki.

Poogie: Sun Apr 27, 03 at 11:12:29 PM (EDT) - New Music Reviews

Fleetwood Mac-Say You Will
Not bad for a bunch of old timers. ;-) There have been a lot of years between this one and their last decent album-Tusk. They acquit themselves nicely. At 18 songs it's a tad bit too long, but very listenable. Kudos to Lindsey Buckingham. His production is impeccable as usual, as is his guitar playing. He doesn't seem to get much respect for his guitar work, with it's unusual finger picking style. Even Stevie is singing in tune, though sometimes her loopy lyrics are distracting. It is apparent, however, how much Christine McVie added to the mix. Her absence is notable here. This CD is a pleasant surprise.

Rosanne Cash-rules of Travel
Now this one's a winner! A beautiful CD. The highlight is her duet with her dad on "September When it Comes." Very poignant, especially with lines like, "When the shadows lengthen and burn away the past/they will fly me like an angel to a place where I can rest." I've listened to this CD repeatedly today and I'll probably listen to it repeatedly tomorrow. Not very cheery material, mind you, but a CD worth listening to.

Maria McKee-High Dive
One word: DISAPPOINTMENT. I was really expecting more from this one. Her first work since 1996's misunderstood "Life is Sweet." There are a few good one's on here, including a remake of the title song from her last CD. Overall, the production is too busy and too theatrical. I really expected her to start belting out show tunes halfway through the CD. I was hoping for a lot more, especially since it's her first release in seven year. Oh well.

Tiki: Sat Apr 26, 03 at 09:47:20 PM (EDT) - The Fab Forum

First Hard Rock show I remember (LMAO - OK I was a little kid and I thought it was Hard Rock) was Three Dog Night - as I check the record - September 12, 1969. I did not attend, but (stuff you hate to admit) I will admit I was a fan, and received the album as a gift. Yes, I still think that the album is cool. ;)

Tiki: Sat Apr 26, 03 at 09:40:23 PM (EDT) - Thomas

I am sure you would have let me (a 9 year old) show up... I was a major tube snob even then... My Joy was my Grandfather’s (that I now own) Roberts 770X (tube) R to R.

You are right about the prices that McIntosh gear goes for on eBay. But the prices are not going to go down, ergo I am saving up for the day I can afford to make a winning bid. My guess is a few years from now.

Thomas More: Sat Apr 26, 03 at 07:02:41 PM (EDT) - GFRR

kyle; I shouldn't have said "local band," I suppose. GFRR had signed with Capitol Records and were in Los Angeles in 1969 when that test took place at the Forum in Inglewood. They had not released a record yet, or at least they weren't very well known, and their manager was happy to have them play for the test, because no rock band had ever played there before, and they had weird rules like no women in the dressing rooms, etc. The band and the venue were from two different worlds that are hard to imagine nowadays.

However, most music listeners would not understand the difference between tube sound and transistor sound, because they both sound pretty much the same at low volume levels. The difference only becomes audible when you crank it up.

The other difference that I mentioned, between analog and digital sources, can be appreciated by any serious music listener. Select a favorite track (hopefully from the same master) that you have on both CD and an analog source such as a vinyl record, reel-to-reel tape or even a cassette tape.

Start both sources so they are close to being syncronized. Exact synchronization isn't important; in fact it's better if one is slightly ahead of the other, because then you can listen to the same passage from first one source and then the other. You should be able to switch from "phono" to "Tape" or "Spare," on your receiver, so that you can switch from one source to the other, without delay. It won't do to listen to a whole song from one source and then the same song from the other source, because aural memory isn't that exact.

You'll be surprised how your opinion of "clean" digital sound will change. Apparently the "cleaning" takes part of the music out with it. You'll hear the difference.

Tiki; Be careful what you wish for. It you had been at The Forum in 1969, you'd be almost as old as I am! I've been watching McIntosh audio gear on eBay. I even bid on a classic MC-250 tube amp recently, but they go way over my budget. Apparently a lot of audiofiles feel as you do about "the tube sound."

kyle: Fri Apr 25, 03 at 08:12:22 PM (EDT) - thomas

i, being one of those silly maroons who actually was very into gfrr, i suppose you could call them a local band if the forum was in flint, michigan!!;>

Judi: Fri Apr 25, 03 at 09:52:37 AM (EDT) - singing horses

click on the horses try clicking them in different order. Such talent in designing these silly web sites.

Tiki: Thu Apr 24, 03 at 09:52:52 PM (EDT) - Thomas

I found a durn good McIntosh web site today.

I still stand by my "nuthin' comes close to tubes" statement. With that said, I wish I was at the GFRR PA Test. I do like Crown... But for years, IMHO, the Forum's sound was mud... It took the Grateful Dead, (last GD show I ever saw) in the late 80s (Creast Audio) for me to hear a True Live" sound in the place... LOL, I will Say ... Blackmore's folks must have learned a few tweeks on the Crown Power Plates...

Sandy: Thu Apr 24, 03 at 09:35:47 PM (EDT) - Judi

Hope you enjoy the music. The Waifs were my contribution, RTE and his band got their cd act together a few months ago.

Hope Mom heals up, and Dad is restful at home. Stay in touch!

Thomas More: Thu Apr 24, 03 at 09:31:52 PM (EDT) - Tubes vs. Transistors

KD; that thread still lives among audio freaks in pro sound forums and historical audio sites. When the first solid-state (means having transistors, not tubes) amplifier became available for professional sound reinforcement, in the late 1960s, we had an opportunity to test them with tube amps on one side of the PA and the new Crown DC-300 transistor amps on the other side.

One of the local promoters had persuaded the owners of The Forum sports arena in Los Angeles to consider having a rock concert there. Rock n' roll suffered from a rebelous, uncouth image in the 1960s, thanks to earlier pioneers like Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis, so owners of respectable venues such as The Forum or Santa Monica Civic Auditorium were not available to the young promoters of the music. However, it soon became apparent to the owners that these concerts were bringing in real money.

The promoters hired me to provide a PA system on a Wednesday afternoon, to try out the acoustics of the arena. It was decided to set up a temporary stage near one end of the floor area, after I discouraged the idea of a center stage. The promoters wanted a real loud, live rock band to do the test, so they hired a local group name of Grand Funk Railroad. I guess they didn't have anything better to do on a Wednesday afternoon, either.

To make a long story short, we listened first to the side powered by McIntosh MC-250s, which were the highest end of tube-type audio amplifiers, and then to the other side, powered by transistors.

There is a difference, at high sound levels, where the tube amps start to sound "mushy," and the transistor amps sound much worse. The transistor amps generate noise when they are overloaded, while the tube amps only get somewhat distorted.

However, unless you operate your stereo at very high levels, you might not notice the difference between a tube amp and a transistor amp, if they have similar specs of distortion, power, etc.

How about the difference between sound from an analog source (such as a record or tape), as compared to a digital source (such as a CD or DVD)? That's another subject, although similar. What do you think?

Judi: Thu Apr 24, 03 at 03:58:07 PM (EDT) - not lost

Oh my goodness, after 10 days in the hospital, mom was finally well enough to be moved to a rehab hospital about 4 miles closer. Still a good 2 weeks to recover there. Old folks sure do take a long time to heal. Dad really needs a lot of watching so I'm finding I spend more time hanging out at his place, and starting Monday I will have to live there for maybe 3 or more days. He has a chemo shot that leaves him weak and unable to do much on his own.

However, thanks to Sandy and RTE I have some new music to listen to! Just came in my afternoon mail today in fact. I'll bring some books, and they have cable tv, so I can chill out while on guard duty. Many folks around me are now getting the flu, scary since SARS is rampant not far away in Canada and I spend a lot of time in places where sick folks congregate.

Thanks Sandy!

Sandy: Thu Apr 24, 03 at 11:49:03 AM (EDT) - Where in the world is Judi?

I fear she's gotten lost somewhere between home, the hospital, and the seniors' place. JUDI, you should have a pkg any time now.

Tiki: Tue Apr 22, 03 at 10:48:41 PM (EDT) - ...

I like things that glow!

Tiki: Tue Apr 22, 03 at 10:41:40 PM (EDT) - Vacuum Tubes

Hmmm, Good question...

Yes IMHO Tubes provide more clarity. IMHO... And yes, I do believe they do mirror the sound of live performance as well as a studio session.

My Grundig is kind of kewl. I loaded it with vintage speakers. You can pick this up (minus the speakers I loaded) from eBay on the cheap. But my true tube love is my 2 PERI 50’s - Sad, one problem with tube amps - You must test the tubes every now and then - I did not and had a flare up. When I move (ACK coming sooner or later - I can not believe the price that houses are going for these days) I will have a garage that I will convert into a little work shop. And will start rebuilding them as well as others.

The McIntosh Tube Amp is a dream (after a few tweeks). The vintage stuff rocks. JMHO, but there is not a digital system that can equal my Luxman Platter hooked up to my tube amps. Eno, Sam and Dave, Johnny Cas, etc.. You are going to hear a very rich bass, and a pure mid-range.

Thank goodness for such thingies as 6SN7, 845, KT66 !

KD: Tue Apr 22, 03 at 12:44:30 PM (EDT) - The effect of tubes

Tiki - Do tubes provide more clarity (more pure than digital), add a pleasing distortion (less pure than digital), or simply mirror the sound of live performance tube ammplification (pleasing because it's familiar)?

KD: Tue Apr 22, 03 at 12:35:25 PM (EDT) - Music recommendation

I must recommend American IV: The Man Comes Around by Johnny Cash. Stripped down, it's little more than Mr. Cash and his guitar, and maybe a piano. Lots of covers, almost all of whom seemed to add to the original, and Hurt cuts to the quick.

No, he does not hit every note spot on perfect, but every note sung comes from deep inside and lodges deep inside all but the most stone cold hearts. Am surprised I like it as much as I do.

Tiki: Tue Apr 22, 03 at 12:35:19 AM (EDT) - Why tubes rock

"I Wish it Would Rain" - "I say a Little Prayer for You"

Todays goodies will never capture the warmth that the tube stuff captures... JMHO

Tiki: Tue Apr 22, 03 at 12:05:57 AM (EDT) - ooops, my np:

Every now and than I warm up the tubes on my Grundig 2520 and hit the oldies station.

np: "All my Loving"

Tiki: Mon Apr 21, 03 at 11:53:16 PM (EDT) - Odds and Sods

Congrats to Makua Rothman for stiffing the French on the Billabong 2002-2003 Global Big Wave Award... Bringing the award back home to our surfing roots - Hawaii - Rocks...

Happy Bithday Iggy Pop... My, 56 years old... ;)

Poogie: Sat Apr 19, 03 at 11:31:25 PM (EDT) - LOL

Nah, you're not paying me too much. ;-) I had a bunch of rebate checks from the hardware and software I got last year. Forgot I had 'em. Found them last night, added them up, and a little light went off in my head!

Got the 10gig. Wanted the 20gig, but that just felt too indulgent. It is amazing!!!!!! It downloads in minutes. Works beautifully with iTunes. It sounds great, too. Pretty darn good for a doohickey the size of a deck of playing cards. The earbuds are a major annoyance. Painful, actually. Must get something more comfy before my ears start to bleed.

When I have some time, I will download my Palm contacts. Not only does it play music, but it acts as a stylish address book too! It also comes with some games, but I haven't checked those out. I hope it doesn't have Tetris!

You must get an iPod. It's the greatest thing since TiVo. I will work on the wife for you! I hear buying an iPod lowers your cholesterol levels as much as 20 points. ;-)

NP (directly into my ears): Joan Armatrading-The Weakness in Me.

Tiki: Sat Apr 19, 03 at 11:02:37 PM (EDT) - What????

ikit! wants an iPod !!!

I must be paying you way to much! ;)

np; FEAR - More Beer

Poogie: Sat Apr 19, 03 at 09:59:17 PM (EDT) - I bought...

...an Airport card. Gonna set up a wireless network with the TiBook, the G3, printer and the TiVo. Ordered the router and usb adapter (Netgear). Forget the Airport Base. Way overpriced.

Then I bought a really cool Saddlebag for my TiBook.

And then...drumroll...I bought an iPod. :-)

Tiki: Sat Apr 19, 03 at 09:38:14 PM (EDT) - Poogie

LOL, what did you buy?

Poogie: Sat Apr 19, 03 at 09:19:27 PM (EDT) - Tiki

I was a very bad girl at the Apple Store today. ;-)

I know, I know...I should get back to work!

Tiki: Sat Apr 19, 03 at 08:05:56 PM (EDT) - Thomas

Wish we could have been there...

One of these days I am going to take a day off...

Thomas More: Sat Apr 19, 03 at 04:19:02 PM (EDT) - Black 'n Orange Z28

That could be a song title. Any song-griters out there?

I'm glad there's a little pumkin color on your batmobile, kyle. Thursday night at The Bluewater Grill was relatively quiet. There was no dancing on the tables after Sandy left. She left with take-out platter for HoS, who was home hard at work.

Some of the Thursday night fans of Flying Blind (the world's largest two-piece band) were there, including George and his son and grandson. Turns out George and I used to haunt the same recording studios in Hollywood, back in the late '60s.

Flying Blind was bass-less, since J "Dub" Wilkins got an actual paying gig elsewhere that night. Hopefully he will be on station next Thursday. You don't miss the bass player 'til he's gone, you know. Dave "DJ" James and RTE held forth with several knockout tunes.

The best part, however, was after I got home. No, it wasn't a barfly who followed me home. It was my pleasure to purchase the first ever Flying Blind CDs, with fourteen tunes caputured in digits, recorded live at The Bluewater Grill, complete with bartender and blender in the background on one song. The recording is excellent, imho. I'd recommend that all of you come down to The Bluewater Grill next week and pick up a copy of this CD while it's still available. I understand there was a limited pressing.

kyle: Fri Apr 18, 03 at 06:42:35 PM (EDT) - thomas

the pumkin, long may she run, has been vickie's car now for the last 5 yrs. the new toy for me is a black 79 Z28 with orange stripes, and basically the same power plant as the pumkin, but also has a hi flow catalytic converter, cause after all,it is a smog car.it's a daily driver, and i'm putting the finishing touches on it. it's fast, i had it up to 125 on the 105 by the airport, it's beautiful, everyone calls it the batmobile, and i get to drive it for 6 more years and then it goes to my son, jason, who put dibs on it when i started building it. just like his old man that boy is.

KD: Fri Apr 18, 03 at 03:02:19 PM (EDT) - Judi

Most caps nowadays feature those plastic expandable headbands ...

KD: Fri Apr 18, 03 at 03:00:47 PM (EDT) - Judi

Please offer my congratulations to Roger. That's quite an acheivement.

np: Prefab Sprouts, Cars and Girls

Sandy: Fri Apr 18, 03 at 02:04:38 PM (EDT) - judi

Look no further than your mailbox. You'll be getting a pkg in a few days. :)

Judi: Fri Apr 18, 03 at 01:45:53 PM (EDT) - Plan B

Bringing our Plan B for next week's spring break. Plan A was 2 days in Boston, 2 days at Acadia National park and 3 days in either Quebec City or Montreal. Plan B is 3 hrs per day, every day taking dad to visit mom in the hospital and helping him, and the rest of the day to putter in the yard, rent movies, nap, eat out. Still not that bad. Summer plans to be determined after we find out in what shape the elderly family members will be in and how much care we need to provide. I have a sinking feeling we will be sticking pretty close to home this summer. Well at least I should have a great garden and a new deck. Roger will be trying to make his laptop PC work while I enjoy my all Mac all the time experience.

Nice to hear about the hair cut experience! I will keep an eye out for the Waifs

Sandy: Fri Apr 18, 03 at 09:20:08 AM (EDT) - Judi

What will Plan B be like? We don't get all that time off, so we'll be lucky to get some long weekends - hubby is going to an annual convention that features a different city each year. This year's is Sparks/Reno, NV. He'll be schmoozing and exhibiting new product - I think I get to be the "booth babe". OK, make that the "booth granny".

I had my long hair cut off, got 10" from it, and donated it to Locks of Love, a group that makes wigs for children who lose their hair to chemotherapy. Any of you follically challenged men - next time I'll save the clippings to make you a "rug"! ;-)

I've found a new group whose music I love. The Waifs. They're Aussies, 2 sisters and a guy - they sound like a cross between The Corrs and Kacey Chambers. Fantastic picking and harmonica. Check 'em out.

Judi: Fri Apr 18, 03 at 08:15:07 AM (EDT) - and remember KD...

Hubby is a teacher, he has 10 WEEKS in a row summer vacation. All paid vacation time...And 2 weeks at Christmas, a winter break and an Easter week plus all holidays and occasional snowy days off too, all paid! Want to change professions?

Judi: Fri Apr 18, 03 at 08:12:29 AM (EDT) - KD- Parks

There are about 30+ officially named "State parks" and some "State historic sites", those mostly are forts. About half of the state parks are day use picnic areas and the others have a day use and a campground section. We bought a state park pass for $25 that allowed us free entry to all parks for 1 year. The usual costs is $2-$3 per person per visit. We started the quest as soon as the parks opened in late May and finished in early September and worked out a plan of visitations from south to north. On several occasions we could visit one park in the morning and another in the afternoon. I took a photo of the official sign, and photos of special facilities at each park such as picnic areas, beaches, large group picnic areas, parking, handicap access, and restroom facilities as well as recreation such as hiking trails.

We dragged the inlaws with us to the local parks.We visited 42 different parks and forts. We really did visit them "ALL" and I have photos to prove it! We found places we never heard of, saw amazing scenery and learned a lot about our state. The most photographed in our series was Fort Knox.

Mom is making progress slow but sure. Gas prices have dropped to $1.49/gal. School vacation week starts today at 2PM. Vacation plan A tossed out, on to Plan B. Last of the snow in the yard melted Wednesday. Saw my first robin yesterday. Roger ordered Dell laptop, he was jealous of my portable computing. He was named teacher of the year, big article in the news paper on him yesterday and he has been on tv and met the governor. He is way over his 15 min of fame. Need to purchase larger hats. Happy Easter! Adam and Juli will join us here for dinner Sunday.

KD: Thu Apr 17, 03 at 11:41:39 PM (EDT) - Judi

How many State Parks are there in Maine? You visited every one?!?

KD: Thu Apr 17, 03 at 11:39:21 PM (EDT) - Still called ...

Flying Blind? Thought it'd be more like Flying Impared or Flying Squinting ... something more acoustic bass trio sounding.

Scott and the Sechtones
Scott and the 20/20's (a different direction)
The Scott Trio
The Perfect Scotts ...

Perhaps I should check the website ...

KD: Thu Apr 17, 03 at 11:32:01 PM (EDT) - Thomas M. (!)

Two Dollar Fish Tacos?!?! I thought you had to buy the $21 Swordfish or the $36 Orange Roughy or the $61 ("Fresh, because it's an endangered species.") Chilean Sea Bass.

Heck, I could bring an underage relative. (Unless karate runs late ... which it did tonight.) How late do they serve those fish tacos?...

np: Beargarden, The Seaside Song

Thomas More: Thu Apr 17, 03 at 08:50:26 PM (EDT) - Hey Jon;

Close up shop and c'mon down.

Thomas More: Thu Apr 17, 03 at 08:49:04 PM (EDT) - Hey kyle,

I was just pulling your leg, bud.

Time to head on over to The Bluewater Grill for some $2 fish tacos and $3 beer. They have Happy Hour 'til 6:30 and then "Flying Blind," the world's largest three-piece band, performs until 9:30.

Good exercise for the Orange Punkin, kyle. Hop on the 405 and get off at Fairview, which is just after Harbor Blvd. Take a left at the exit and go up two lights to Sunflower, take a right and continue past two lights and then take a left on Plaza Drive, and then turn left into the parking lot. Try to get there before 8:00 PM, for the last set.

kyle: Thu Apr 17, 03 at 07:57:12 PM (EDT) -

thomas- i was not laughing at judi's mom, but at her u.n. inspector joke!! sheesh kabeesh!!

Sandy: Wed Apr 16, 03 at 01:44:01 PM (EDT) - Judi

Hang in there... glad you pop in here and have a few minutes to yourself !

Judi: Wed Apr 16, 03 at 01:09:51 PM (EDT) - time out

I did my daughterly duties this morning, Not on call again until this evening.

Statues that I know about in Maine include, Longfellow, Samantha Smith, Paul Bunyan, John Ford, Thomas Brackett Reed, a lobsterman, Andre the seal, a huge fiberglass lobster, 2 or more huge wooden indians, some nameless female something like "Glory" or "Victory", and most towns have a statue of a Union soldier either standing or on horseback in the town square.I am looking for permanent statues, not the temporary lighthouse/bears/moose that sprout up in the summertime. Maybe that will help in selecting appropriate music.

Ken Burns watch out! I'm stealing your music for my show on family graves. As much as I dislike violin music, that screechy, soulful sound will be perfect. However I might do another version to "Sleeping with demons" of just hubby's family stones. After all, they are..Do I then need to pay royalties to the artist?

Judi: Wed Apr 16, 03 at 07:10:17 AM (EDT) - KD

Maybe "Demons" is not the best choice for the photos of statues, but how about using it with the show on graveyards/stones? Might scare some folks away..

KD: Tue Apr 15, 03 at 09:11:20 PM (EDT) - Judi

Sorry to hear about your mom. Hope you'll find some fun in between the racing.

As much as I like the song, I don't think Sleeping With Demons would be good statue music.

Thomas More: Tue Apr 15, 03 at 07:57:13 PM (EDT) - Mean ol' kyle

Hi kyle! Judi's mom falls down, and you laugh! Now you know how you got the "mean ol'" moniker.

In Japan I noticed that that when an old lady fell down, people laughed. I asked my Japanese counterpart, who was the electrical engineer at the Budokan, about this, and he explained that the reason people laugh at other's misfortune is because it's not them. Funny, isn't it?

kyle: Tue Apr 15, 03 at 07:43:16 PM (EDT) -

judi- lol at the mother dialogue. sorry to hear about your mum. hope all works out.

Judi: Tue Apr 15, 03 at 06:51:29 PM (EDT) - Sandy!

Excellent! I'll get a copy of that music, that is a great selection.

KD: maybe not

Mom fell today, broke her hip, I'm now in "daughter mode", racing back and forth between dad, mom in the hospital, and home. Are we having fun yet?

KD: Tue Apr 15, 03 at 06:02:44 PM (EDT) - Judi

Walk Like An Egyptian?
Poisoning Pigeons In The Park?

Sandy: Tue Apr 15, 03 at 02:48:37 PM (EDT) - Judi

Why not take a leaf from Ken Burns' songbook???? Remember the tune he used over and over in the PBS Civil War series? "Ashokan Farewell". That would sound great with a slideshow of cemetary scenes. A lot of versions are done with violin - seems to me you said you DON'T like violins - but James Galway does a great flute/piano arrangement. Check out his "Best of.." 2-cd set. As for a tour of statues n monuments? Still thinking on that one......

Judi: Tue Apr 15, 03 at 11:16:36 AM (EDT) - a QUEST and a question

Each summer we go on a QUEST to see something all based on the theme for the summer. Last year we visited every State Park in Maine and turned the photos into a slideshow. This year we will do 2 quests, the first is to photograph all family gravesites and create a datebase of their location for our geneology research. The fun quest is to visit as many statues as we can find in Maine. I have a good list and have local friends searching for others but I am looking for music as the background to the slideshow. Any suggestions for music to go with bronze, wood and statues made from sand perhaps? And while you are thinking along those lines, what about music that fits the theme of gravestones? If nothing appropriate is found by the end of the summer I'll use something instrumental from Windham Hill. Thanks!